My mother-in-law has been in a nursing home several years for alzheimer's. Her condition has really deteriorated in the past 6 months. Also she has been falling more than usual - even out of her bed.

They have a large padded mat on the floor by her bed but last night she fell, and bruised the left side of her head. Is this normal? The last time she fell was about a month ago.

41 Answers

alfreda.h
Answered 8 months ago    reply

Do they have rails on the bed .... My mom sort of climbed / rolled out of her hospital bed with rails after that we started taking a king sized sheet folded of course and seriously tucking her in ... she was able to sit up just not get free.

sueann
Answered 8 months ago    reply

No they do not have rails on the bed. But I'm not sure that would help. When she was in the hospital with rails, she tried to climb out and flipped over the foot of the bed. I'm just wondering if the falling/loss of balance which is worse means her dementia is getting worse too.

alfreda.h
Answered 8 months ago    reply

Yeah I had to bind my mom to the bed with the sheet tucking it over her and under the matters,

alfreda.h
Answered 8 months ago    reply

It could be due to med's or it is getting worse. .. Or if she has an Inner ear issue, or sinus issues, so many thing can cause a person to lose balance and fall ...

g.moll
Answered 8 months ago    reply

Rails actually result in more injuries and fewer nursing bones use them. Bed alarms can help but can just alert staff to a fall in progress, they may not be able to prevent it. Have her doc review her meds. It may be time to they to get rid of meds that increase fall risk, and blood thinners are risky now and may not be worth it. She is on her way to the stage of being non ambulatory total care. Yes, this is part of the process.

sueann
Answered 8 months ago    reply

You're right. They don't use rails or any restraining straps, etc in the nursing home. Her doctor has told us recently that her condition is rapidly deteriorating.

alfreda.h
Answered 8 months ago    reply

My mom just pasted in july were in calif the had rails on the beds they were able to be raised or lowered ... but by the time my mom got to the nursing home she was well beyond mobile. ..

alfreda.h
Answered 8 months ago    reply

So sorry with each stage it get more difficult to deal with.

sueann
Answered 8 months ago    reply

My mother-in-law is not mobile either. She has a wheel chair but a nurse has to put her in it and then she does move around in it by pushing her feed. However she has fallen out of the wheel chair too ..

mcwilliams97
Answered 8 months ago    reply

In my state, rails are considered a restraint (unless a resident actively uses them to turn/reposition themselves in bed.

alfreda.h
Answered 8 months ago    reply

when my mom was in her chair I would put a large men's belt around her and the chair... Once she was on the potties and she tied forward it seed like in a bike of an eye and fell forward, scared the Shit out of me ... then I asked my X- husband if he could rige me some sort of safty belt for the pottie, .. We didn't get to that point I'd just not leave her side while she was on the seat....

alfreda.h
Answered 8 months ago    reply

Wow each state is different. ..

pattersonlorene
Answered 8 months ago    reply

Yea my mom had four bad fall's in the nursing home...each time it be worst last fall was in December last year..her poor face was all green an blue on one side had 8 stitches in her head...I brought her home to live at 68lbs.after her fall..she not hardly mobile anymore but she hasnt fallen out of bed , or chair an she weights 90lbs.I believe if they have someone to give them the time an take care of them an know ur thier for them..It a big difference. ..dont get me wrong its a hard job, an I appreciate every cna my mom had last 4 years in a home , but 6 patients with this disease is way to many to care for on a 8-12 hour shift for 1 person..an thats the way nursing homes are, so sad...

alfreda.h
Answered 8 months ago    reply

My mom was at home for 15 years with Alzheimer's. My sister had a few of her friends watching her I'd mark myself out of work and suprises check I didn't care for my mom to have a very shabby lunch and no real attention all day.. so then one of my sisters friends spent the summer lived in she was great ... but went back to her husband... then my brothers baby mama ... while she was there I got a bad feeling so I visited alot one day she forgot I was there I was in the den I heard her on the phone and it was more important for her to go help a friend I think she thought she could put my mom in her room and latch the door... my sister had a latch because my mom, had sundowners and wanted to roam all night long the had confined her to the hall it led to all the bedrooms so she started going into the rooms while everyone was asleep and she liked to smack my brother ( LOL) she'd sake the shit out of him ... or make the bed with him in it... so they latched her door she'd yank on it but was safe ... well I told my sister about the girl that was gonna leave mom alone in her room - it then asked our neighbors if they noticed anything odd they told me she'd leave and be gone for hours ... so I told my sister I'd move in and care for mom ... I spent 7 years hands on 24 / 7 caring for her... I got a got 4 hours on Sundays to get out I'd go to church then home to be with mom. When we had to put her in a home she couldn't walk ... didn't make much sense but tried to talk ... at that 1 st. Home someone hit her smack in the for head the home called me on a Sunday must of been 3 or 4 am we didn't hear the phone then when boy friend checked messages he told me to call the home they said - Oh your mom has a rash on her forehead and we put ointment on it but you don't have to come down... she's fine ... well she had been fine 5 days before. .. I had a bad feeling I called my sister told her to get to the home and send me pic...of mom ... it would take me 45 min. To get to her my sister 10. So before I was even out the door the pic showed a huge bruse... it looked about 5 days old ... I spent all day arguing with the nurses to get me the doctor. .. 5 pm .by that time I had the cops there they tried to talk to mom asking her what happend she told him in English and Spanish a man did it and she would smack the heals of her hands together... and all he could say was well she might not know what she was talking about .... I told the staff I wanted her transport in an ambulance to get the so called rash checked ... they didn't want to get us one and told me if I tried to remover her they would call the cops .. I told the nurse to go right ahead and she could report that I beat her ... because that was my next action ... she then go ahold of the dr. Mom's room was right across from the nurse station, I over heard her telling the dr. That the cops had been there and I wanted to take my mom to get checked at the ER. I walked over and grabbed the phone and told the dr. That he had better order an ambulance or I was gonna put my mom in a wheel chair and shove her in my car and take her myself ... well we got the ambulance and at the ER .. the dr. Told me right away that some one did asult her and he wouldn't reals her back to that home. She was thinner than when I had her at home... so the next home was really far from us I had been looking for a closer place mean while 2 diffrent times I went to see her abd found her sitting at the dinning table looking at her plate ...she couldn't feed herself ... and the nurses had not checked on her in a while because she ha peed her self completely saturated I was furious I asked in a nice way to please have one of the nurses clean her up I was told No she has to wait till we clean up the dinning room first so I rolled her towards her room the CNA right behind me asking what I was going to do I told her clean my mom up .... well after that I had to wait for a call back from the admin. And of course she wasn't available when I called all 5 times that day ... well the last home was awsome ... they took care of her till she passed in july ... the CNA that were assigned to her treated her like family ... the watched out for her ... in her last day ( 30 ) they would go into her room on their breaks to hold her hand and pray for her ... then they sent me cards to express their sorrow and let me know they truly cared for her and missed her. .. mom went 30 days with out food or water ... hospice was amazed as we're we...


amoroso
Answered 8 months ago    reply

You should ask for s bed with rails and go from there


alfreda.h
Answered 8 months ago    reply

Rails and an extra sheet to keep my mom on the bed tightly tucked, I didn't want to use the restraint belt on her ... the sheet was kinder,


jina67
Answered 8 months ago    reply

Ask them to check for UTI my grandmother had that issue of frequent falls and they checked her and she had a UTI.


alfreda.h
Answered 8 months ago    reply

IT I is common, and dos'nt get diag. At the onset... my mom had that issue the started her on a cranberry supplement. .. after that she was fine .


baur
Answered 8 months ago    reply

In many places rails are considered restraints and are not allowed. My father in law wore hip pads & a helmet and the last year of his life had his bed lowered with pads on the floor. Falling is sadly very common.


dina47
Answered 8 months ago    reply

The statistic that I've heard is that when elderly people fall, 40% of the time they also hit their head.


alfreda.h
Answered 8 months ago    reply

I'm having my brain checked I've been having memory issues and dizzy tripping and more I recently found out that the apartment I live in has mold ... that alone will cause memory issues. . Word loss and med's I have to take will cause the issues as well just crossing my finger it's not Dementia or ALZHEIMER'S both my parents had these...

holland
Answered 8 months ago    reply

I'm reading a book, The End Of Alzheimer's by Dr Bredesen, and all of those things may be a factor.


alfreda.h
Answered 8 months ago    reply

Yes when my mom feel forward of the toilet she landed for head first... another time she got out of her bed lost her balance hit her head ...


y.woolley92
Answered 8 months ago    reply

My grandmother fell every DAY! Every single day!! It was terrible! Her last fall resulted in a hip fracture.

alfreda.h
Answered 8 months ago    reply

It is so dangerous for our LO'S to fall their old frail and in most cases can't communicate what is wrong ...

y.woolley92
Answered 8 months ago    reply

I know. She was in the nursing home and no precautions that they took prevented her from falling. She was at the point in the disease that she would wander all day and night and shuffle her feet instead of picking them up to walk. It was the sad and terrifying at the same time. This disease is sent from Satan himself!

alfreda.h
Answered 8 months ago    reply

Yen I agree This disease robes people of the mind it is the ultimate attack from satan, to be stuck inside ones self. I wish they'd find a cure for it... The last few years my mom was literally frozen she could only Moe her left arm and hand it was so painful to move her, she couldn't speak but she would scream when the had to change or bathe her... to move her was so sad the staff told me it hurt their heart to have to move her.


torrenceliane68
Answered 8 months ago    reply

Here in germany rails are not allowed exept a judge had a look on the person and gives an order to it. But it is common to put a matrace on the floor in front of the bed and let them sleep there. I think this is an easy and natural way of preventing falls. And it leaves them mobile in a respectful way.


miley
Answered 8 months ago    reply

Nanny Cam !


gerry
Answered 8 months ago    reply

Sad, but sorry to hear she’s been in a nursing home, as children we owe it to our parents to be their care giver as much as possible. But I can’t speak to why she has spent so many years in a nursing home??? As for her falling, I would get rid of the bed and just have a good mattress on the floor and remove anything she could fall on to avoid her getting hurt more

sueann
Answered 8 months ago    reply

She went to the nursing home on her own free will several years after her husband died. Our daughter went to her home for a while and took care of her, bought groceries, etc. But she was too sick to stay at home all the time and she was scared (lived way out in the country). She would not live with us nor her other 2 children. She had severe RA and diabetes plus heart problems when she went. The dementia came later. We live nearby so we can visit her frequently but, of course, she doesn't know who we are now and it is so sad . She is years old. Monet

gerry
Answered 8 months ago    reply

I’m really sorry and I know how it feels as we went through similar matter with our mother, I guess I really would like to see better nursing homes and the government actually putting something into long term care because this is a hard disease to deal with. As you said it becomes the family disease as the person with it doesn’t remember but family suffer seeing them in this condition. Wish you all the best and strength


torrenceliane68
Answered 8 months ago    reply

Monet, it is not our task to judge. We do not know about the circumstances and besides that, there are good reasons speaking for nursing homes. After all nothing speakes against beeing care giver and caring with heart and soul AND to give a beloved person in a nursing home! But you are right with the mattress !

gerry
Answered 8 months ago    reply

Yes I understand that we really don’t know the circumstances why our family members are put in a nursing home, and from visiting 3 , I found them sad and without real emotion, mainly because staff seem to create a one system for all no matter what level of Alzheimer’s your at. Again I didn’t mean to judge and I hope all loved ones are given a respectful place where they can spend their last days with dignity

torrenceliane68
Answered 8 months ago    reply

I agree with that. There are far to few good nursing homes !


laguna.q
Answered 8 months ago    reply

I was visiting my mother in the Alzheimer’s place that she lives, and one of the other residents fell They said that she recently started falling It’s illegal to use any kind of restraints At that point they need a sitter, but I would first rule out a treatable reason for falling


lashandrafanelli66
Answered 8 months ago    reply

Right alfreda 1/2 rails and the floor mat..This is normal I work with dementia patient


feng
Answered 8 months ago    reply

My mother fell out of bed too. The bone was sticking out. She also used to fall alot too

gerry
Answered 8 months ago    reply

That’s sad and hope she is ok , the best thing is to go primitive, just use floor mattress and remove furniture really they don’t need it it’s all about their comfort and safety


sternberg14
Answered 8 months ago    reply

I was a State Ombudsman for nursing homes and feel this facility could do a much better job protecting your MIL from head trauma/injury. I’m strongly suggesting that you contact the local Ombudsman and ask for their help to protect your MIL. There should be a large sign in the lobby or hallway with the Ombudsman phone number. If not, ask the social worker or Director of the nursing home. Or call State Health Dept if Ombudsman doesn’t help and file complaint. Your MIL deserves to be safe.


luo5
Answered 8 months ago    reply

When my grandma was in a home, they lowered the bed as low as it would go and put pads on the floor. The beds didn't have railings.


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